Daly Cherry-Evans is a polarising figure in rugby league.
Since, he decided to backflip on a deal with the Gold Coast Titans to stay with the Manly Sea Eagles, there's been an ugly divide.
From being called a "filthy cockroach" from those within his home state to now being named captain of the Maroons - arguably Queensland's most important sporting team - It's been a long and tough ride for DCE.
And now the 30-year-old has opened up on those tough times speaking on Triple M's The Rush Hour with Dobbo.
In an extremely honest and candid chat with Dobbo, Cherry-Evans also opened up on the time he conceded he will never play Origin again and what it means to him to captain Queensland; hear the full chat below.